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The state of RA3

biotech, 05:28am 19th April go to quake 3

Well.. i'm a little sad. it seems that ra3 is on its last legs. the two ra3 servers have been empty for the last two weeks and it's dissapointing as i've only been playing a few months and started to really enjoy it. i'm not sure if maybe everybody is busy atm, and perhaps the servers will once again be filled with the usual suspects during peak time, but i don't know.. i can point to a specific instance which began to corrode our little community, but it doesn't really matter.

so anyways... what do u think? is it over?
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unifex you are not logged in
07:06am 19-04-2008 #1

it's been in this same state for the last 5 years. the exact same state just with different names.

chacha you are not logged in
11:05am 19-04-2008 #2

What probably screwed up gamearena was the dumb decision to turn on punkbuster when they already knew the greater majority didn't like punkbuster being turned on (I think it was astrobear who turned it on). As soon as it was turned on no one would play and those that did, would join the slashquit server and the rest just didn't know about the slashquit server. I'm not sure how many people cheat (in ra3) to warrant having it for a pub server, if it was a competition (ra3, duel whatever) then sure have it on.

I was one of those players who stopped playing ra3 after punkbuster was turned on and I haven't been playing as much (I only ever play CA and have played ra3 1v1 a bunch of times) because ctf is much more interesting then ra3 to me.

I'm not sure why people don't play on the slashquit server especially when it provides a better ping to most quakers then the gameareana server does.

CTF had a bit of a dead moment with the servers going empty for about 2 - 3 weeks after TF2 was released, then I guess some people missed the ctf action or just didn't like TF2. Quake3 has always been hanging on a string for quite a while and eventually that string is going to snap, whenever that happens I don't know. There are still new players joining Quake3 even when they're getting smashed in ctf which I guess is encouraging.

Also, if any of the slashquit guys are reading this..could the muting of spectators on the ctf server be turned off by default. Its pretty annoying when players don't realise that someone has disconnected and another has joined but can't join a team because no one knows that player has changed name 50 times to unlock/unlock!/unlock11!!1oneone etc.

Grrrdian you are not logged in
11:09am 19-04-2008 #3

i dont think ive ever seen a cheater in q3, dunno why pb needs to be on at all (how many times has there been trouble on sq servers?)
its always the same old people who top the list, and the most variety you'll get is those same old people using an alias

Raven you are not logged in
11:16am 19-04-2008 #4

Yeah, it's in a pretty sorry state at the moment. And I totally disagree that it's the same state it was 5 years ago. I've probably been playing for a bit more than a year now, and even back then CA would be absolutely cranking every night of the week. Now you're lucky to get a CA game going, and if it happens, its one round of map 11 and that's it... occasionally a callvote restarts map 11.

It's hard to even get CA on map 1 going.

Pick it up boys and girls!

wch you are not logged in
12:04pm 19-04-2008 #5

Map11 is the only good ra3 map.

chacha you are not logged in
12:30pm 19-04-2008 #6

There are plenty of other good maps, a lot of the time people just don't know what they're doing on it.

Cugel you are not logged in
12:57pm 19-04-2008 #7

it seems that ra3 is on its last legs.
but
i've only been playing a few months
is it over?
No. Happens now and then, but it usually bounds back.
Quake Live is another thing though - that will probably kill it for good.

Grrrdian you are not logged in
04:01pm 20-04-2008 #8

lets hope it does
and i mean that in the best way possible :>

wish I could have a name that would stick you are not logged in
01:00pm 21-04-2008 #9

well about this situation, as my name states, if we all just use a name that we could all identify with then people would get to know people. This is an old game but so what? Some of us still play it so why should it be on it's last legs? Hell keep it going, we just want all the people that do play this game to come out of the cobwebs. Let's give it a chance shall we? I don't think that by having such negative feelings about it is going to keep it alive... besides if we get people that we know involved, then this could be something big in the making. So hope to see all of you on getting a few points happening as soon as possible, and no, the game ain't finished yet, well not at least till the fat lady begins to sing

Cugel you are not logged in
02:02pm 21-04-2008 #10

Meh, shit mod tbh.
But cpma w/ multiarena & ra3 maps - thats the shiz, cept none of the ra3 sheep ever used it.

Above... Gotta protect your ra3 reputation?

illicit you are not logged in
02:56pm 24-04-2008 #11

I just downloaded q3 again. I will start playing it again from tonight, thus saving ra3 single handedly.

chacha you are not logged in
03:06pm 24-04-2008 #12

agree with cugel, CPMA should get used!

budzy3 you are not logged in
02:52pm 25-04-2008 #13

i prefer the ra3 netcode over the cpma net code, maybe i am just more used to it. To me it feels more consistent, not as many rails hitting when it appears they shouldnt and vice versa.

Game arena doesnt have PB on it.

Lin you are not logged in
12:22am 26-04-2008 #14

I cant seem to figure out what I'm doing wrong with CPMA as far as net settings are concerned. I've tried a number of settings but it still feels unresponsive as shit. I wanna get into dueling but having my rockets leave the gun half a second after I click fire is just fucking frustrating. It cant be all because of latency since I get the same ping on the RA3 server :(

unifex you are not logged in
12:55pm 26-04-2008 #15

CPMA duel arena only supports 1 player per team. IE you cannot run 2v2 or more when having a winner stays in, loser cycles situation.

Hence why RA3 1.76 is still used.

unifex you are not logged in
12:56pm 26-04-2008 #16

go talk to arQon for more info...

Raven you are not logged in
05:01pm 26-04-2008 #17

Yeah, ra3 just feels right for me. Other mods all feel laggy, and my rails never seem to hit... and generally require thought. In ra3 I just wait for the words fight and then click a few times. And most of the time I get a nice break to drink my drink, eat my food, or scratch my itch, etc.

I'll be sad when it finally kicks it.

dice you are not logged in
03:40pm 27-04-2008 #18

CPMA style ra3 was hell fun.

Why isn't RA3 1.77 used? Didn't it have cool additions like lowering rail damage to 75?

Cugel you are not logged in
03:51pm 27-04-2008 #19

There's a 1.77? AFAIK development stopped at 1.76. There was a beta after that that had pip drag/drop windows like in ufreeze but nothing was finished. Development stopped when they went to work on ra4.

Lin you are not logged in
04:13pm 27-04-2008 #20

which sucks btw

Grrrdian you are not logged in
05:01pm 27-04-2008 #21

yeah, what cug said.
though 1.80 was supposed to come out after ra4 came out, but dunno what happened, i stopped tracking ra3 ages ago. is ra4 even out?

sPi[k]e you are not logged in
12:35am 28-04-2008 #22

damn astrobear....farking dipshit....bad decisions at a critical time will kill the bloody community...

btw i dun think everyone knows SQ...i do coz i use gamespy...both servers are empty all the time.

back to Grand Theft Auto 4 for me i guess...

dice you are not logged in
04:12am 28-04-2008 #23

astrobear only put punkbuster back on because zeal0r complained about resiak saying "you suck rene" to his girlfriend (lace) and wanted him (and me) banned for it. Of all the things to chucky a hissy fit about ... that was totally the best reason ever.

Sticks and stones will break zeal's bones and names will probably do the same.

illicit you are not logged in
11:37am 28-04-2008 #24

bahahhahahahah that is the best dummy spit EVER!

wch you are not logged in
12:33pm 28-04-2008 #25

hahaha

chacha you are not logged in
01:18pm 28-04-2008 #26

yipes

neg. you are not logged in
04:12pm 28-04-2008 #27

im pretty sure if me and link arnt banned you WONT get banned for anything ha ha ha

ps. i bet she has a nice rack is why he did that

wch you are not logged in
04:27pm 28-04-2008 #28

astrobear is a bit of a tight arse.

/kick rant
Instead of kicking the people who were reconnecting to manipulate a vote to change the map, he kicked me for joining the server at the wrong time. In response to this, I was an arsehole on the server for the next 20 minutes.
/end kick rant

ra3 is gay, unless its on the SQ server. Not only better pings, but dickheads cant rcon trip... except noetix and myself :D

Grrrdian you are not logged in
05:45pm 28-04-2008 #29

you just called yourself a dickhead ;d
man, i dunno what it is about GA gameops and rcons and stuff, they all seem to be idiots :\

sPi[k]e you are not logged in
05:55pm 28-04-2008 #30

erm is Lace a cute girl??? haha...becoz she always use the Lucy model i kinda get this image of her being a fat bitch...erm sorry Lace...just my imagination ... lol

ript you are not logged in
06:17pm 28-04-2008 #31

I haven't been able to see the sq servers for the last few days they down?

also just idle on ga ra3 and ill join ive been checking it a few times each night, bit of a ghost town though

neg. you are not logged in
06:21pm 28-04-2008 #32

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the DNS was updating if you are just using straight ips

DeKrow you are not logged in
10:59pm 28-04-2008 #33

I don't have a problem with astro, he only put pb back on after a bunch of people whinged about the lack of it. After a bunch more people whinged about it being ON again (including me, cug, and Azza) he turned it OFF again, and then there was an update to PB that was supposed to fix the frame dropping and lag issues so it got turned ON again, then we all whinged about it again because it didn't fix the frame dropping and lag issues, and it has ended up OFF again. In terms of pb astro has been doing what the community wanted as far as the forum feedback went, as opposed to doing whatever he wants.

For further reading I'd suggest checking out the GA Quake forums, there are 4 or 5 threads on the topic with a whole lot of opinion.

I've always gotten a better ping to GA, but despite this the SQ's servers always 'felt' better, less spongey.

Lin you are not logged in
01:23am 29-04-2008 #34

yeah, SQ servers feel alot more fluent then GA. I dont play on GA anymore for that reason alone.

Raven you are not logged in
05:21am 29-04-2008 #35

I play on whatever the people are playing on. That's usually what dictates my choice..

zeal0r you are not logged in
04:18pm 29-04-2008 #36

your powers of deduction are amazing. but unfortunately you can attribute pb being put back on entirely to astrobear. i asked him to ban you two because you both have been tools for a long time, and i specifically told him you don't need to put pb back on to do it and linked him to a game admin site detailing all the rcon commands.

but to be quite frank i couldn't care less if pb was put back on gamearena. it's a shit server and people should play on slashquit anyway, not only for the better pings but a better environment where idiots aren't tolerated and admins actually know how to use rcon commands.

the real story behind all this is resiak and dice can't handle a female a gamer playing ra3 and feel the need to talk shit to her for months on end. the people who know me would realise i wouldn't want to get someone banned for using someones name, and the actual reason would be something major.

wch you are not logged in
04:59pm 29-04-2008 #37

ROFL, why isn't that hard to believe?

neg. you are not logged in
05:59pm 29-04-2008 #38

i am sir nag and i will be your psychologist this evening

i think the main problem here is you seem to think what dice and resiak have to say means something...

Kamikazee you are not logged in
07:01pm 29-04-2008 #39

Fight the good fight boys....

+1 Zeal. Im on your side ^_^.

Grrrdian you are not logged in
07:55pm 29-04-2008 #40

this thread is more active than the ra3 server ;d

Slappa you are not logged in
08:25pm 29-04-2008 #41

haha

stan! you are not logged in
02:32am 30-04-2008 #42

at one stage i actually thought lacey was a guy, then i thought she might be a girl and now i have no fkn idea

crus you are not logged in
07:30am 30-04-2008 #43

stan, im going with the alien option - good ol column C.

chacha you are not logged in
11:57am 30-04-2008 #44

there are plenty of female gamers that own and some that own dice, he hasn't bitched about them :P

zeal0r you are not logged in
12:14pm 30-04-2008 #45

then there's a lot you don't know about dice isn't there :)

stan! you are not logged in
12:21pm 30-04-2008 #46

its ok guys we all love china.

chacha you are not logged in
12:53pm 30-04-2008 #47

zeal0r said...then there's a lot you don't know about dice isn't there :)

Only going based off what I see

ript you are not logged in
01:52pm 30-04-2008 #48

there are no girls on the internet

ript you are not logged in
01:57pm 30-04-2008 #49

also who said ra3 is dead ts was rocking last night

chacha you are not logged in
02:00pm 30-04-2008 #50

ts is not ra3! :P

wch you are not logged in
03:22pm 30-04-2008 #51

yes it is.

Raven you are not logged in
06:27pm 30-04-2008 #52

it is these days. map 1, map 11, map 1, map 1, map 1, map 11.

Grrrdian you are not logged in
08:05pm 30-04-2008 #53

real ra3 is clan arenas, imo
this whole 1v1 and 2v2 on TS is just crap

DeKrow you are not logged in
10:54pm 30-04-2008 #54

+1 to ^^

stan! you are not logged in
12:01pm 01-05-2008 #55

da kidz r pissT

ript you are not logged in
12:58pm 01-05-2008 #56

Well raven if thats your oppinion of "dead" then ra3 has been "dead" for at least a year and this thread is pointless.

Kamikazee you are not logged in
04:45pm 01-05-2008 #57

ra3 kinda died after optus took down its servers.

Raven you are not logged in
05:56pm 01-05-2008 #58

ript, I never said RA3 was dead. In fact I think I said the opposite earlier. I'm probably in there more often than anyone.

crus you are not logged in
10:37pm 01-05-2008 #59

1v1 or 2v2 ts... and if the queue is too long in that.. change it to map11 for some CA.. thats pretty much how it goes these days.

just like how in CTF cp18 gets fucking rolled every night.. more then once.

tbh, i reckon its choice.

illicit you are not logged in
01:41pm 02-05-2008 #60

I reckon your choice Rob. True story.

chacha you are not logged in
01:45pm 02-05-2008 #61

i actually like a lot of the other maps in ra3. The ol' days when people use to play quite a few maps were good! I've only ever seen ra3map1,11 and I think its 14 (Egyptian type map) get played. People can't handle getting slapped around on a maps where they have to use something other then a rail or lg.

At least with q3 ctf there are quite a few different maps that get played.

illicit you are not logged in
01:55pm 02-05-2008 #62

I reckone Andrew is choice too.

I personally think that so few maps get played besides map1 and 11 because back in the day when most of the servers rotated from map 1 to 12, map 2 was so shit that as soon as it came on it was instant callvote map ra3map1.

illicit you are not logged in
01:57pm 02-05-2008 #63

Sifn't to the optarse ra3map1 only server, aww jeer optus cable and my 4 pings!

wch you are not logged in
02:09pm 02-05-2008 #64

imo...

Good CTF maps:
q3wcp1 - no lg.. only just made the list.
q3wcp5 - depends whos on the other team defending..
q3wcp9
q3wcp14
q3wcp15 - never gets played, because no one can handle no rail. funny how everyone can handle no lg on cp1 though... faggots.
q3wcp17 (3v3.. 4v4)
q3wcp18 - the greatest map ever.
q3wcp22 - should be played.
q3w3 - should be played.

Good ra3 maps:

ra3map1 - ts and clanarena are both good
ra3map4 - castle deathstalker owns with like 8v8 or more
ra3map9
ra3map11 - clanarena only
ra3map12 (this is the egyptian one pyth)

chacha you are not logged in
03:16pm 02-05-2008 #65

illicit said...I reckone Andrew is choice too.

I personally think that so few maps get played besides map1 and 11 because back in the day when most of the servers rotated from map 1 to 12, map 2 was so shit that as soon as it came on it was instant callvote map ra3map1.


hah, ra3map2 got voted off so quickly..poor guy!

I can't remember the maps off the top of my head..but I definitely remember a few maps being fun. The old days ra3map1 was king and it only really ever got played for CA as well. I can barely remember playing ra3map11 a few years ago.

Wench: I think the reason for cp15 not being popular is because its got no rail, lg whoring on that map makes it a little easy but if you were to add a rail on that map it'd make it a real stupid map. So it loses players interest in one way (no rail) but if you add a rail it lose players again because of the campy rail top area that would happen. Lose/Lose for pub games really.

wch you are not logged in
08:32pm 02-05-2008 #66

I don't even think the lg dominates the map. Sure it gets used a bit, but in any cp15 game I've played (pub or clan), I always find myself using the shotgun, plasma or rocket...

Shame its not popular on pub. Due to there being no rail, its quite hard to d-stack cp15, and thats all cp14 (especially) and 18 turn in to.. d-stack after 1 cap.

learn2cp15 pub :>

mikey you are not logged in
10:33pm 02-05-2008 #67

Mad whine in here, faggots.

Ra3 is shit. That is all.

Master Phi you are not logged in
11:27pm 02-05-2008 #68

wow such a loooooooooong thread about ra3.
Isn't ra3 dead these days anyways?

Grrrdian you are not logged in
08:29am 03-05-2008 #69

like I said, this thread is more active than the ra3 servers

budzy3 you are not logged in
04:17pm 03-05-2008 #70

wch said...astrobear is a bit of a tight arse.

/kick rant
Instead of kicking the people who were reconnecting to manipulate a vote to change the map, he kicked me for joining the server at the wrong time. In response to this, I was an arsehole on the server for the next 20 minutes.
/end kick rant


I was the one who rigged that vote, then astro targeted you.... then the shit fight went forth :P
ra3 is gay, unless its on the SQ server. Not only better pings, but dickheads cant rcon trip... except noetix and myself :D

budzy3 you are not logged in
04:18pm 03-05-2008 #71

^^^^ my comment is inside the quote box :0

dice you are not logged in
03:56am 04-05-2008 #72

Yeah, zeal0r, I totally cared that a girl was playing quake, why don't you go ask G or Dazzle(retribution?) if I've ever insulted them. At least tell the story like it actually happened. Resiak only insulted her about being a girl because he knew it would get to her (and later, you as well). He never insulted any other girl ... coincidence? Maybe your girlfriend really is a bitch.

Kamikazee you are not logged in
04:41am 04-05-2008 #73

"Resiak only insulted her about being a girl because he knew it would get to her (and later, you as well)" ...

Well doesn't that him a shit bloke.

Kamikazee you are not logged in
04:41am 04-05-2008 #74

'that make* him' ... damn 4am typos.

zeal0r you are not logged in
10:08am 04-05-2008 #75

nah not going to join you in whiny bitch argue over the internet land.

a few months later and you're still bitching. no one cares, the only thing people were interested in is astrobear and pb, which is resolved now. find another place to go whine and bitch.

Grrrdian you are not logged in
10:30am 04-05-2008 #76

hang on, i thought dice and zeal0r were friends >.> like friends irl <.<
didn't retribution quit q3 ?

wch you are not logged in
11:55am 04-05-2008 #77

dice said...why don't you go ask G or Dazzle(retribution?) if I've ever insulted them.

Resiak only insulted her about being a girl because he knew it would get to her (and later, you as well).


ROFL, yeh.. daz is a girl :P

And the second part... wow. Makes you both (Resiak and Dice) sound like fucking tools.

Angmar you are not logged in
12:36pm 04-05-2008 #78

"We only insulted her about being a girl cause we knew it'd get to her", lulz.

Congratulations, you're a fuckwit.

stan! you are not logged in
12:37pm 04-05-2008 #79

daz so hot he might as well be a girl :P

no queer factor here.

dice you are not logged in
01:11pm 04-05-2008 #80

Zeal0r, you have a strange definition of whining.

Guard, we had a falling out.

Wench, dazzle is not DH[daz], it's an alias retribution used, or whatever her real alias was.

Wench/Angmar, I didn't insult her about being a girl, that was resiak, and don't forget she was throwing insults back at us as well.

Grrrdian you are not logged in
01:59pm 04-05-2008 #81

fair enough
/callvote LockThread (Way-Offtopic)
F1 pls

dice you are not logged in
03:30pm 04-05-2008 #82

F1

crus you are not logged in
10:46am 05-05-2008 #83

ROFL

Raven you are not logged in
05:56pm 05-05-2008 #84

locked threads are gay, it'll die when it dies.

Raven you are not logged in
05:56pm 05-05-2008 #85

locked threads are gay, it'll die when it dies.

illicit you are not logged in
02:03pm 06-05-2008 #86

What happens if I never let it die? Did you think about that?

DIDN'T THINK SO!!

wch you are not logged in
02:04pm 06-05-2008 #87

When is it going to end... when is it going to end.. when is it going to end..

:<

Raven you are not logged in
03:31pm 06-05-2008 #88

You'll die though, so eventually it will.

daz you are not logged in
09:59pm 09-05-2008 #89

Do you know how hard it is being this ridiculously good looking? /me starts a petrol fight

noiZe you are not logged in
11:26am 10-05-2008 #90

No Daz, tell us? /ignite:)

shags you are not logged in
03:07pm 10-05-2008 #91

Care/!

mikey you are not logged in
02:14am 11-05-2008 #92

its /care jackass.

shags you are not logged in
11:32am 11-05-2008 #93

lol /fag

crus you are not logged in
11:16am 12-05-2008 #94

HI, IM JOHNNY KNOXVILLE AND WELCOME TO JACKASS

JAmflange you are not logged in
08:36pm 13-05-2008 #95

but it's ra3, rooof

No-One you are not logged in
05:26pm 15-05-2008 #96

maps are a problem, and wankers reconnecting to make votes pass.

i have an idea... LOCK THE MAP CYCLE, DISABLE MAP VOTES so it only leaves vote next.

and i have also seen those people zeal0r mentions acting like fuckwits on a regular basis, i could also add a couple more names.

Lin you are not logged in
05:56pm 15-05-2008 #97

Pity the map cycle is: Map1 -> Map11 -> Map12 then back to Map1... a random map cycle would suffice; and im all for disabling map votes as well, the game needs some variety.

neg. you are not logged in
10:27pm 15-05-2008 #98

callvote rigging is where all da cool kidz at

sPi[k]e you are not logged in
12:35am 19-05-2008 #99

we need more different maps to play...the map cycle is shit man

/callvote map ra3map??

/reconnect

/reconnect

lol

DeKrow you are not logged in
09:10pm 23-05-2008 #100

dice said...
Guard, we had a falling out.


I think it was around the year 2000 when guys noticeably started becoming girls. Have a fucking punchup, then buy each other a fucking beer and then your best fucking mates again.

Can you imagine saying "we had a falling out" to someone's face when you're talking about a guy? Maybe you should have had one of those classic nerd slap fights as well.

loz you are not logged in
10:55pm 23-05-2008 #101

SNAPT!

biotech started this thread. you are not logged in
04:02am 24-05-2008 #102

101 replies... don't i get like a trophy or something now?

noiZe you are not logged in
04:21am 24-05-2008 #103

lol

stan! you are not logged in
03:00am 28-05-2008 #104

So like wtf happened to that random teams Q3ctf comp ?

wch you are not logged in
09:08am 28-05-2008 #105

I need to wait for the servers to become available again before I can organise anything. Also, this is the wrong thread for this topic :P

bgn you are not logged in
12:06am 29-05-2008 #106

yes biotech you get a trophy-

the inaugural 'i can flog a dead horse' award of every dead game you ever played.

congratulations.

really.

neg. you are not logged in
03:13am 29-05-2008 #107

you deserve a trophy for the biggest shit cunt in the universe too, faggot.

Grrrdian you are not logged in
06:39am 30-05-2008 #108

oh q3live, where art thou :<

well, when rather haha

wch you are not logged in
07:51am 30-05-2008 #109

rkn

biotech started this thread. you are not logged in
12:33am 02-06-2008 #110

i think the sq ra3 server needs a reboot or something.. getting wierd tremors when u get hit

crus you are not logged in
07:48am 02-06-2008 #111

yeah biotech, its fucked. :P

wch you are not logged in
09:00am 02-06-2008 #112

biotech: It's called knockback, and yeh.. the server does need a reboot. It's the same thing that causes the laggy LG animation in CPMA.

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