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Questions/Spam/Help re: defrag/movement

Grrrdian, 08:49am 7th February go to quake 3

The thread you are in is the questions section of this guide

this is where you guys can spam, ask for help, link me to demos of yourself so i can say what you're doing wrong, tell me if you have problems with any of what I post in the quake movement guide thing, or just plain organise a time you can get some tips from any of the people who defrag.

try not to criticise, unless you are willing to help
constructive criticism welcome
if ive made mistakes in my guide, let me know
If you think something should be changed, let me know
if you've found a good demo / map that'll be helpful to newer people, let me know.

cheers :)
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wch you are not logged in
09:24am 07-02-2007 #1

Make a link in your main post to the guide itself.

:)

Grrrdian started this thread. you are not logged in
01:15pm 07-02-2007 #2

aha, good idea :>

pathe you are not logged in
08:15am 08-02-2007 #3

interesting thread, anyone reading thru it?

haven't seen any feedback yet, interested to see what the learners think

Grrrdian started this thread. you are not logged in
08:26am 08-02-2007 #4

oh, there IS feedback

besides beginners, two 'veterans' have approached me, one on msn and the other on irc ^_^

i think people are too shy/embarassed to post here :S would rather ask me directly

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uNhoLeee you are not logged in
10:16am 08-02-2007 #5

i read it, seemed to be fairly attainable. even though i still pick fights with walls and maneuver like a pregnant britney spears.

wch you are not logged in
11:02am 08-02-2007 #6

ahaha

Grrrdian started this thread. you are not logged in
01:50pm 08-02-2007 #7

unholee, ive updated the urls in my post. have a look at them, esp the ones where I demonstrate making friends with walls =d
well, sorta

anyway
if it seems so easily attainable, I challenge everyone to do the red1 strafe pad on cos1_beta7b, on the ipgn defrag server ;)
(except dave blink and cyn)
its not hard, if you cant already do it, it'll be good to learn, so yeah, good challenge.

for that matter, i wonder how many of the quakers who still play can do those pads? hmm

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uNhoLeee you are not logged in
02:58pm 08-02-2007 #8

i played cyn and he was doing b2r backwards, but I'm more interested in shooting people though so I'll pass (:

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xio you are not logged in
04:28pm 08-02-2007 #9

I think I'll learn how to do the blue one first :)

xio you are not logged in
04:43pm 08-02-2007 #10

First question here...

I downloaded some of the demos you posted, and I want to know how to view the demo with a normal POV and not in 3rd person.
And how to remove the little window there on the corner that is annoying :)

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Grrrdian started this thread. you are not logged in
06:41am 09-02-2007 #11

try df_ghosts_miniviewdraw 0 for the window
and you can turn off third person in the defrag setup / demos
(i think you can also go to defrag demos / and turn OFF "replay mode" or whatever)

and
you have nothing to lose in attempting to learn :D
xio managed to go from not being able to do blue1 to finishing off green2 several times within a day. may also have finished off red by now, i dunno

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pathe you are not logged in
11:54am 09-02-2007 #12

nice cap on wcp18, world record is like 7 seconds flat :P

my best is like 7.5 but i know theres more in the tank :o)

Grrrdian started this thread. you are not logged in
01:07pm 09-02-2007 #13

hehe, yeah, ive seen that
xunder is crazy =| he's got the world record for juts about every fast cap there is :|

7:5 is pretty good though ^_^ n1

Ninja you are not logged in
01:50pm 09-02-2007 #14

not q3wcp17 i have that one :P

Grrrdian started this thread. you are not logged in
02:11pm 09-02-2007 #15

really :P
whats your record on that?

Ninja you are not logged in
09:45am 10-02-2007 #16

just checked the site again and someone beat my time by going a different route :(
Oh, since we are all throwing servers and mini comps around, maybe we should get a one day mini speed capture comp on a sq defrag server. Something like, each player has 5 attempts on each map to get their best time. if you win a map you get 3 points... 2nd-2 and 3rd-1. Its something relatively simple that wont take too long.

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noiZe you are not logged in
12:04pm 10-02-2007 #17

All makes sense, just gotta prac. more

Awesome idea Ninja

"mini speed capture comp"

Grrrdian started this thread. you are not logged in
12:42pm 10-02-2007 #18

ive been thinking about this actually
I reckon it'd be nice if one of the admins could just make a defrag forum

And thats it, wouldnt need to do anything else.

the rule for the defrag forum would be: NO SPAM :D

simply put, you make a new thread for every map, post up your time and upload a demo of it
if others can beat it, they reply to the thread

as for points, i'm sure it wouldnt be hard to make a database of some sort. If no one could volunteer, Ill get my brother to make a program or sth that'll output results in excel format.

as for webspace needed for demos, it would be easy enough to get a gmail account, something like slashquit.defrag@gmail.com
and you upload demos onto that, etc

reason I think the one day speed cap thing isn't cool is that no one even practises speed capping. heck ninja, i didnt even know you speed capped :S why dont you come to the ipgn defrag server sometime?

greycats you are not logged in
12:50pm 10-02-2007 #19

xio managed to go from not being able to do blue1 to finishing off green2 several times within a day. may also have finished off red by now

I managed to go from blue1 to blue1in 30 minute blocks throughout the last month, and achieved it again in 45 minutes today.
Pretty sure, I>Youall at defrag
:)

Ser4ph you are not logged in
02:26pm 10-02-2007 #20

tough call, Cats. Can you back that up? :P

Ninja you are not logged in
08:29pm 10-02-2007 #21

i have a question... everytime i put sv_maxclients to 2 it keeps reverting back to 1. How do you make it so 2 people can LAN with defrag mod?

edit: nevermind figured it out.... had to set df_gametype to appropriate number

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xio you are not logged in
10:29pm 14-02-2007 #22

I was able to cap q3wcp18 in 07.640 :) , the thing is that I don't know how to make the flag appear all the time on my local server such as on IPGN's server.
Do you know how to do it Guardian? Because currently I can only see the flag the first time I join the server, after I take it, it never appears again on the base.

Does anyone know how to make defrag demos playable on cpma and defrag such as the one pathe posted from that Xunder guy. I am able to run that demo with the defrag mod and with cpma mod, I tried messing around with the defrag demo settings using the menu but I didn't work.

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greycats you are not logged in
10:54pm 14-02-2007 #23

Oh it's on !
You pick the time and place (only one place, ipgn defrag) and we'll see who's "better" !

Grrrdian started this thread. you are not logged in
06:08am 15-02-2007 #24

hmm, nope xio
does it matter though? you can still pick it up, even though you cant see it.

btw, well done on the cap :):) 7.6 is frickin awesome ^_^
anything sub8 deserves praise imo

now go do jump, jump2, etc :p

also, with regards to demo playback, I dont see why cpma isnt playing back your demo. :o if its recorded in defrag, it should be playable with cpma, afaik. thats weird.

xio you are not logged in
04:32pm 15-02-2007 #25

yeh i can still pick it up hahah, although it's weird.

I have started doing the jump maps, I got 6.60 on jump2 and jump is just horrible, my crosshair gets lost in that white void and it just hurts my eyes hahaha.

chacha you are not logged in
04:49pm 15-02-2007 #26

yellow crosshair rocks!

Grrrdian started this thread. you are not logged in
05:40pm 15-02-2007 #27

i just use a white dot as a crosshair =/

edit:
haha, you got a gif file up chacha

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Ninja you are not logged in
07:55pm 15-02-2007 #28

I gave that wcp18 record of 7.040 a good crack but i could only come up with 7.184 and a sore wrist

Grrrdian started this thread. you are not logged in
09:38am 16-02-2007 #29

faggots
youse all beating me left right and centre :'(
haha
oi ninjas, why dont you ever come defrag with us :(

btw
7.184 is 5th in the world
v nice :o

Ninja you are not logged in
10:15am 16-02-2007 #30

defrag where? i cant find any ipgn defrag server anywhere

Grrrdian started this thread. you are not logged in
11:00am 16-02-2007 #31

210.50.4.24:27962

you around atm?

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xio you are not logged in
03:33pm 16-02-2007 #32

well yellow crosshair seems to get lost as well on some whites or even yellows! hhahah I've tried it before but it doesn't make the cut for me. Do you have a ss of your crosshair facing the white void in jump chacha to see how it looks?

Ninja you are not logged in
05:59pm 16-02-2007 #33

I tried connecting to the server but i keep getting CLIENT_UNKOWN_TO_AUTH....
I deleted the q3key file in every directory, launched q3 and connected manually through the defrag mod.
I fiddled around with port 27952 and 27960 both TCP and UDP but i still cant ping to authorize.quake3arena.com (like ive read in some troubleshooter)
I also done a timescale 100 to blast my way in still nothing...
Any idea what im doing wrong?

clown you are not logged in
06:57pm 16-02-2007 #34

Ninja you speedy mofo :D!

wch you are not logged in
09:02pm 16-02-2007 #35

Maybe your dns cant resolve the host name.. try using different dns servers. What dns servers you ask?... no idea :l

incognito you are not logged in
09:33pm 16-02-2007 #36

Pinging authorize.quake3arena.com [192.246.40.56] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 70.251.144.6: Destination net unreachable.
Reply from 70.251.144.6: Destination net unreachable.
Reply from 70.251.144.6: Destination net unreachable.


Wouldn't say that's pingable anyway. Routing is probably different with UDP.

Grrrdian started this thread. you are not logged in
08:37am 17-02-2007 #37

try connecting to a different server then connect to the ipgn one directly from there. if that doesnt work, open up your "hosts" file (should be in C:windowssystem32driversetc if you're using xp, "hosts" and it has no extension) with notepad/wordpad or something, then add this line to the bottom:
192.246.40.56 authorize.quake3arena.com

tell me how it goes

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Ninja you are not logged in
10:11am 17-02-2007 #38

i connected to an iinet server then to that one but didnt work. no ipgn servers work either. i did all that but still get that same message... oh well doesnt matter i give up :P

Grrrdian started this thread. you are not logged in
07:32pm 17-02-2007 #39

heh
you're not getting away that easily

just you wait till i get some other defrag server put up :p

Grrrdian started this thread. you are not logged in
07:48am 30-04-2007 #40

ive updated the other thread with demos. sorry it took so long to put up a demo of half beat, i completely forgot.
hope they help. cheers

deevus you are not logged in
12:35pm 07-09-2008 #41

Ive been trying this out.. I can do the initial circle jump on what I think is red2, but I dont think I'm getting enough speed to jump from the second pad to the next part.

Grrrdian started this thread. you are not logged in
06:44am 08-09-2008 #42

sorry, been away all weekend.
what do you mean? second pad to next part? are you talking about the strafe pads in cos1_beta7b?
hm, think you are.

well, I think the easiest way is to do a 2 beat start. hm heres something i recorded quickly:
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~grrrdian/q3/4deevus.dm_68
hope it helps.

if you want to get a really good start though, try learning airchange. go right down to the bottom of the guide (http://www.slashquit.net/forums/item/1487) and the section on advanced strafing is what you're after.

Grrrdian started this thread. you are not logged in
06:49am 08-09-2008 #43

basically, just do the cj (ill assume you do a left cj, or ie, you hold left strafe when doing the cj), land facing slightly right, then keep on moving to the left. DONT do the switch just yet.

uh, so hard to explain. better off watching that demo. btw, all the demos linked in that other page can still be found here:
http://files.slashquit.net/x/q3/demos/

Grrrdian started this thread. you are not logged in
09:14am 08-09-2008 #44

haha, i had another crack at cp18 a little while back, managed to get 7.552 XD
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~grrrdian/
and 5.000 for jump5 :D

Grrrdian started this thread. you are not logged in
09:15am 08-09-2008 #45

tch
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~grrrdian/q3/

deevus you are not logged in
09:54pm 08-09-2008 #46

Cheers mate.. Will look at it soon.

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